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**cosyfiep** · Jan 01, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I dont think its the afkers that are causing it.....at the 2nd event this morning (6am est) we had LOADS of afkers in the district I was in....and NO LAG AT ALL.

yet at the 3rd one, where there was only a handful of afkers in our district we had insane lag and only 1/3 the amount of people in the district at that time....

no idea about what's going on, however, it doesnt paint a good picture for gw future.

Loviatar · Jan 01, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

no idea about what's going on, however, it doesnt paint a good picture for gw future.

oh sure the game will die because of scattered event lag........big raspberry followed by bronx cheer

Curse You · Jan 01, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I dont think its the afkers that are causing it.....at the 2nd event this morning (6am est) we had LOADS of afkers in the district I was in....and NO LAG AT ALL.

yet at the 3rd one, where there was only a handful of afkers in our district we had insane lag and only 1/3 the amount of people in the district at that time....

no idea about what's going on, however, it doesnt paint a good picture for gw future.

How many miniatures where there at each?

S_Serpent · Jan 02, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Boring, these things happen, last year I missed all hats due to the lag. Live with it or stop playing and free some bandwidth, I'm still having fun in guild wars so I'm still playing it. Keep those hats unique, if not a.net should also start remaking all the hats from the festivals, the collectors editions glows and so on.
They are a gift to us the community, so yeah sometimes it goes wrong, but they are a bonus anyway.

So start playing the game and log off from this board, I'll do the same

Have fun, thats priceless.

Xylia · Jan 02, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

It may well be that servers were unable to save state, due to insane load increase and network lag. I hope Anet will correct this for the next events and also compensate for the loss. (I didn't loose anything)

If the servers were unable to save state, then there's no way for them to know who lost what, therefore there's no way to fairly compensate.

Blonde Warrior · Jan 02, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Is it true that back in the early days of guild wars there was a server roll back and the material prices were reset because someone in my guild said there was and got 1000s of ectos at 100g each.

Aerian_Skybane · Jan 02, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I didn't have a single issue with lag during the entire event, even at peak times. I am quite sure ISP is to blame for most lag experienced. As for the OP, this can occur when both your ISP and Anet's glitch together, causing you to still be able to play while they continually try to handshake, and then when they ultimately fail, you drop for good, but everything you did since last move (I believe GW saves your status everytime you go through a portal or map travel, and when you exit) is gone since the state was never recorded since the last save. Therefore, if you spent time in one zone for three hours, and the server communication failed during the last hour, you would lose all your progress from the three hours. It happened to me when I was in college a couple times due to high server overload on both my colleges server (more common) and ANets (less common).

It sucks but luckily there is more than one event, and could be salvaged. Its a risk and disadvantage of playing an online game. If it were an off-line game, your hardware could die on you at any moment. Same thing.

quickmonty · Jan 02, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

No lag problems.

Been away since last Thursday

Best way to avoid the holiday lag.

No hat again this year.

Musei Karasu · Jan 02, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

There is always lag during events (and disconnects), Arena Net knows this but doesn't seem to do anything to solve it.

Just because you expect them to change something doesn't mean it will be changed. It's very possible there is no way to solve it.

Xylia · Jan 03, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Blonde Warrior

Is it true that back in the early days of guild wars there was a server roll back and the material prices were reset because someone in my guild said there was and got 1000s of ectos at 100g each.

Actually, there was a rollback because of an error that made the material prices reset. All of those etcos, etc, that were bought at 100g each were removed by the rollback.

Fril Estelin · Jan 03, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by Xylia

Actually, there was a rollback because of an error that made the material prices reset. All of those etcos, etc, that were bought at 100g each were removed by the rollback.

Where did you read this?

Alex Morningstar · Jan 04, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Regardless of whether or not anyone thinks it creates lag, AFKers probably do. Tons of them attached to the server, gifts spawning for them and then just sitting there until the timer runs out and picks them up. It makes it annoying for other players who have to keep trying for a high numbered district because the others are full of AFKers.

Either show up for the event (that is every 3 RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hours) or quit crying and go without.

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Where did you read this?

Read the second quoted paragraph. It was done a long time ago, March 13th, 2006.

Shai Lee · Jan 04, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Not so much 'read it anywhere' as 'experienced it' if you were here when that took place, Fril, it was an old rollback. I was here at the time, so I remember. It's possible there are old threads around that discuss what went on, but couldn't find it at the moment.

For this year's Wintersday Finale, mostly all the people in our district complained of lagg or being 'stuck'. It took forever to get to the present you were picking up, which prompted someone to say that GW was crashing due to the servers not being able to handle everyone's simultaneous pick-up of a present. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but seems reasonable.

Also, I read in another thread that someone posted a GW update regarding festival hats:

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Wintersday 2007 Hats

Here's a special opportunity to get this year's Wintersday hats! Simply log into Guild Wars, visit a Festival Hat NPC, and ask him to make you either or both of the 2007 hats: the Wreath Crown and the Ice Crown. Once you've done that, the Festival Hat NPC will record your new possessions, and you can retrieve your crowns at any time. You can take advantage of this offer through Noon Pacific (-8 GMT) on Tuesday, January 8, 2008.

Jan 01, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#21
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	I dont think its the afkers that are causing it.....at the 2nd event this morning (6am est) we had LOADS of afkers in the district I was in....and NO LAG AT ALL. yet at the 3rd one, where there was only a handful of afkers in our district we had insane lag and only 1/3 the amount of people in the district at that time.... no idea about what's going on, however, it doesnt paint a good picture for gw future.

Jan 02, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58	#24
S_Serpent Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: When not at Aziure's Wizard Tower you can find my in Belgium Guild: Knigths of the Keyboard Order - KkO	Boring, these things happen, last year I missed all hats due to the lag. Live with it or stop playing and free some bandwidth, I'm still having fun in guild wars so I'm still playing it. Keep those hats unique, if not a.net should also start remaking all the hats from the festivals, the collectors editions glows and so on. They are a gift to us the community, so yeah sometimes it goes wrong, but they are a bonus anyway. So start playing the game and log off from this board, I'll do the same Have fun, thats priceless.

Jan 02, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12	#26
Blonde Warrior Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Psycho Titans[PT] Profession: W/	Is it true that back in the early days of guild wars there was a server roll back and the material prices were reset because someone in my guild said there was and got 1000s of ectos at 100g each.

Jan 02, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#27
Aerian_Skybane Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: House of Caeruleous [HoC] Profession: R/E	I didn't have a single issue with lag during the entire event, even at peak times. I am quite sure ISP is to blame for most lag experienced. As for the OP, this can occur when both your ISP and Anet's glitch together, causing you to still be able to play while they continually try to handshake, and then when they ultimately fail, you drop for good, but everything you did since last move (I believe GW saves your status everytime you go through a portal or map travel, and when you exit) is gone since the state was never recorded since the last save. Therefore, if you spent time in one zone for three hours, and the server communication failed during the last hour, you would lose all your progress from the three hours. It happened to me when I was in college a couple times due to high server overload on both my colleges server (more common) and ANets (less common). It sucks but luckily there is more than one event, and could be salvaged. Its a risk and disadvantage of playing an online game. If it were an off-line game, your hardware could die on you at any moment. Same thing.

Jan 02, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#28
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	No lag problems. Been away since last Thursday Best way to avoid the holiday lag. No hat again this year.